What sentence should Skilling and Lay receive?

What do you think would be a fair sentence for Skilling and Lay, assuming their guilty verdict was correct?

I wish everyone a safe and happy holiday weekend.

Let's not forget the reason this holiday was declared and those who paid the ultimate price thus we have the freedom to grill out, swim, play yard games, drink beer, and even b!tch about our government without fear of reprisal.

This is one of the reasons for the latest mischief (Bernanke). It will take a while for most of the stock world to trust this guy. http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060523/bernanke.html?.v=2

When will Ken Lay become a professional Christian and be seen on TBN with the crying pink haired lady? I say within the next 30 days...

I see a lot of folks here talking about penny stocks. Is this just an attempt to find something that works in this market or are folks here regularly trading/investing penny stocks? Isn't there a huge risk that many of these will go to $0.00?

INVESTING AND GAMBLING PROBLEMS
SOME INVESTORS MAY BE AT RISK FOR GAMBLING OUT OF CONTROL IN THE STOCK MARKET AND OTHER FINANCIAL MARKETS

When people gamble excessively, and their behavior negatively affects other areas of their lives, gambling becomes a problem. Problem gambling may occur in the traditional recreational forms of gambling, such as sports betting, casinos, or the lottery. It can also be a problem in any financial transaction, including the financial markets, when money is risked in an attempt to gain more money.
When does investing become problem gambling? A self-scoring quiz is offered below to alert investors to the potential for problem gambling in the markets, along with suggestions for where to go for help.
All investments include risk of some kind. Investors should always know the risk that they are taking and choose investments to match their risk tolerance. The problem gambler can find gambling opportunities in all market areas, including simple stock purchases.
Most investors clarify specific, long-term goals, such as college tuition for their children, or economic security in retirement and choose investment products that match their goals.
A small percentage of "investors" are risking large sums of money in market transactions. Their goal is to make a lot of money quickly and to experience the excitement of the action. These gamblers "play" the markets as they would play casino games.
Some problem gamblers in the markets have never gambled for recreation, while others have gambled problematically at some time in one or more recreational forms of gambling.
People who have gambling problems are seeking to experience the same reactions in both the markets and recreational gambling. Their behaviors meet the diagnostic criteria for pathological gambling. Pathological gambling is also referred to as compulsive or addictive gambling. It is a clinically defined mental disorder characterized by obsession with gambling and out of control gambling resulting in serious negative consequences in most areas of functioning.
If you think that you or someone you care about may have a problem with gambling in the financial markets, take this self-scoring quiz to assess the behavior. The questions identify the major characteristics of compulsive gambling as they apply to the markets.

Financial Markets Gambling Questionnaire
Note: All questions refer to either past or present thinking or behavior.
1.I have been preoccupied with seeking daily information about the status of my investments or trades or have been preoccupied with thoughts of past and future investments or trades.
_________Yes _________No2.A major reason I have invested or traded is to change an unhappy mood, for example, escape worries, pressures, anxiety, depression, etc.
_________Yes _________No3.I have experienced extreme highs when I win and extreme lows when I lose in the markets.
_________Yes _________No4.I have felt uncomfortable when any cash accumulated in my brokerage account and have needed to quickly find a way to keep it in action.
_________Yes _________No5.I have been restless or irritable when unable to be active in the markets, for example, when short of money, away on vacation, trying to cut back on trades.
_________Yes _________No6.I have needed to increase the amount invested or traded to maintain the high or excitement of being in action.
_________Yes _________No7.My investments or trades have become increasingly speculative or risky over time.
_________Yes _________No8.I have had more money at risk in the markets than I could afford to lose.
_________Yes _________No9.I have often engaged in high volume investing or trading, for example, to outguess the direction of the market, etc.
_________Yes _________No10.My investments or trades have been highly leveraged.
_________Yes _________No11.I have not opened brokerage statements to avoid having to think about my losses.
_________Yes _________No12.I have borrowed money from family, friends, credit cards or other sources to invest or trade.
_________Yes _________No13.I have borrowed money to invest or trade and have not paid it back.
_________Yes _________No14.I have had to have someone else provide money to relieve a crisis caused by my investing or trading.
_________Yes _________No15.I have lied to people in order to hide that I was investing or trading or to hide how much money was involved.
_________Yes _________No16.When losses have piled up, I continued the same investments and trades or increased the amount, in hopes my strategy would work, or my luck would change and I would regain the losses.
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_________Yes _________No19.I have committed an illegal act to get money to continue to invest or trade or to pay back a loan for my investment activity.
_________Yes _________No20.I have wondered whether I was gambling excessively in the markets.
_________Yes _________No Key: 0No gambling problem1 or 2Possible future problem3 or 4Mild current problem5 or 6Moderate current problem7 or more Severe current problemYou should seek help if you are concerned about your answers to these questions or you believe the questions apply to someone you care about. Pathological gambling is a treatable mental disorder.
Gamblers and their families and friends may get more information about pathological gambling, and about professional and self-help treatment resources in the 50 states and Puerto Rico by calling:
The National Council on Problem Gambling
HELPLINE: 1-800-522-4700
OFFICE: 410-730-8008

An investor's poll from BOOOYAH:

O BOOOYAH, please stop da carnage!

O No BOOOYAH, let em keep tumblin!

Anyone who did not get a chance to vote in da last BOOOYAH poll....please register yer votes in this'n.

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I don't have small children, but would think that parents wouldn't appreciate Cramer's use of "the knife" on his show. Children love to emulate adults and he is not setting a very good example.

Do we have the type of Inflation the FED is fighting?

"Wal-Mart" has no choice but to raise prices with energy prices so high, so what the FED is doing, it would seem to me, hurt the economy and accomplish nothing, because B.R.I.C. (the resources sponge from hell) is not going away

How can what the FED is doing force "Wal-Mart" to lower prices?

I am confused

Am I just putting what Master Cramer is saying about why the stock market is dying, but in the terms of "Inflation for Dummies"?

Do you feel more and more the damn world is going more insane?! Get this: China has just completed the world's biggest dam, built over China's San Andreas Fault: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12880810/

I guess it is in the water...

(But at least oil speculators will have a reason Monday to drive up oil prices)

Metropolis, New York (AP) – Superman late Thursday went on one of his rare rampages, attacking the Metropolis stock exchange.

Sources indicate Superman had grown tired of the exchange allowing financier Mr. Lex Luthor corner the Kryptonite market for the Russian Mafia or other unsavory elements of Brazil, Russia, India, and China (B.R.I.C.).

The SEC is investigating CNBC’s madman tipster Mr. Jim Cramer for pumping B.R.I.C. on his nightly television show “Mad Money.”

The rumor mills on Wall Street are hinting Mr. Cramer had Kryptonite options that allowed him to cash in on Friday’s run up in the stock prices of the Kryptonite industries of the rare green element that is so fatal to Superman. It is known SEC investigators are in both Switzerland and the Cayman Islands, putting pressure on bankers about any secret accounts belonging to Mr. Cramer.

Critics of Superman have long complained the man from Krypton has become lax about stopping the finding and processing of Kryptonite.

Oil speculators are spending this weekend figuring out ways to use the Kryptonite situation as a way to make a major run up in oil prices Monday. “This could be better than another tribal warfare incident in Nigeria, or a tropical depression off the coast of Africa,” said a giggly Mr. Gordon Gekko, well known Wall Street maven.

When I joined here, I did it looking for investments of 1 - 2 yrs. I see a lot of folks bumming out over 2 bad market days. Doesn't that just mean it's time to watch for bottom so you double down? How many here saw things were a bit high and managed to take a half a position off before the drop--when there was speculation of 5% interest rates? How many here are day/week trader's? How many here are investors with 1 - 2 yr outlooks?
I'm curious because I'm learning the game myself and the only I have that went up was GLD.

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I saw this video posted on another forum. The guy was really good at juggling. Turn on your sound to see how he juggles the balls to the sound of the music.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=chris+bliss

Since I can't juggle at all, I thought it was really amazing. Then I saw this video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=chris+bliss

Now that guy can really juggle.

Admin note - if you don't want this one the site, feel free to delete it and I'll understand.

It's located near Denver, CO... but, for the right price, I'm willing to deliver it or meet you half way or whatever.

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This sucks. My school just blocked the streaming quotes section of Scottrade.com. How am I supposed to keep up with out it? I am an A-B student and get all of my homework so why can't i trade while at school?

"Mr. PC" looks like Bill Gates, but hey, the ad agency is just using the guy from the Comedy Channel's "John Daily Show"

Hi All - Wanted to let you know of an opportunity to join us in honoring Jim Cramer at the NCEE Visionary Awards on October 16th, 2006. The National Council on Economic Education (NCEE) is a not-for-profit organization that trains teachers and students, K-12, in economics, personal finance and entrepreneurship nationwide. We are holding the Visionary Awards at the Pierre Hotel in New York, and the event honors champions of economic empowerment. Other honorees include the Stephen Dubner, co-author of "Freakonomics", John Whitehead, Chairman of the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation and the Goldman Sachs Foundation, Harold "Terry" McGraw, CEO of the McGraw-Hill Companies and "High Water Women" a group of women in hedge funds doing great philanthropic work. There are limited single tickets and sponsored tables range from $10,000 to $50,000. If you would like more information about the event, please email me at rcolombo@ncee.net. You can learn about the NCEE at our website, www.ncee.net. Thanks.

Kind of scary what is going on. We wonder why stocks are tanking. Iran has been testing misiles while enriching uranium.

Iran’s President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has challenged the reality of the Holocaust and said that Israel must be “wiped off the map.” Bush and others in the White House view him as a potential Adolf Hitler, a former senior intelligence official said. “That’s the name they’re using. They say, ‘Will Iran get a strategic weapon and threaten another world war?’ ”

A government consultant with close ties to the civilian leadership in the Pentagon said that Bush was “absolutely convinced that Iran is going to get the bomb” if it is not stopped. He said that the President believes that he must do “what no Democrat or Republican, if elected in the future, would have the courage to do,” and “that saving Iran is going to be his legacy.”

Another war. Well Bush is wanting to make history for himself. I'd say that Iran really wanted to make nuclear power plants if they haven't been testing nuclear weapons at the same time.

I know this is off topic, but it's the reason why everything is red right now

Yea...so i went on a nice adventure trip this Easter for 2 weeks down in Bolivia...It was a blast. We got to go in the water with anacondas and Caymen "Alligators" and we got to go in the mines o Potosi and sit in the geyser springs!

...Kirk...

Knock it off.

You post foot-long lists in threads where they have no relevance, you behave as though none of us knew there might be some risk involved in securities until you came along, and you even go so far as to suggest that the owner of this site is complicit because he didn't make your last little warning a sticky long enough.

I also noticed one other thing. Prodigy's posts usually only contain stock tips and lots of exclamation marks. But you quoted him in some other thread as saying "I made my money on [something or other]. What do you want from me?" I did a search of Prodigy's posts, and he hasn't posted that anywhere. From that I deduce that you sent him a PM accusing him of something, waited for a reply, then posted that reply in the forums.

That's low, lady.

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