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AngelaMkt
01-14-2016,
Given that the second word in the title of these forums is Traders as opposed to Investors it is not surprising much of what is posted here are short run ideas including day trades, swing trades, and momentum plays.

For those of you with a longer-term investment horizon you may want to consider adding exposure to timber to your portfolio for inflation protection and real growth at about the long-run pace of the global economy. Some of the greatest investors in the business are the former and current managers of Harvard & Yale's endowments - Meyer and Swenson respectively. Here is an excerpt from Yale's 2006 report. Note the endowment has over a quarter of its investments in real assets and one of the largest allocations to timberland in the industry (and the top annual performance over the last 20 years to boot).

Concordhok
01-14-2016,
Now granted Harvard and Yale are likely making direct investments in timberland as Harvard Mgmt Company bought 10,000,000 acres in New Zealand under Meyer. In my view this does not preclude smaller investors from gaining access to this asset class. Below are a few options if one was so inclined to obtain exposure to timber for the long haul.

aoyoubuquusu
01-15-2016,
Timber is pulling back after becoming extremely overbought in the short run. Look for retracements that coincide with an RSI(14) that bounces off the 40 to 45 level for an entry if you're considering this asset class. Outside of gold timberland may be the best inflation hedge available. It also has the benefit of spinning off cash flow which is not a characteristic gold can claim.

Brandongus
01-16-2016,
If you prefer the diversification/spreading of risk of the two ETFs mentioned above over the selection of individual stocks note that iShares WOOD is the cheaper of the two with an annual expense ratio of 0.48% while Guggenheim's CUT comes in at 0.70%. Neither are particularly liquid with three month trailing volume averaging ~15,000 shares traded daily for WOOD and 50,000 shares traded daily for CUT. It appears whatever extra expense paid annually to CUT could theoretically be made up in narrower bid-ask spreads but again I'm not suggesting timber is a quick trade but rather a multi-year holding in a portfolio.

caseyqn18
01-17-2016,
Slightly overbought and banging against resistance. I will be watching to see how the timber ETFs react at these levels. A brief pullback forming a higher low would not be surprising and actually be quite constructive from a technical standpoint.

Here's a look at the two timber ETFs side-by-side courtesy of Zack's:

admin
01-18-2016,
I'm bullish on timber as a long-term inflation hedge as part of a longer-term, diversified portfolio. I will be watching this general market pullback for a good entry position in timber names. In the meantime it looks like we're seeing mixed signals in one timber ETF. There is bearish divergence at the same time a Cardwell Positive Reversal signal went off. The rectangle pattern implies the share price goes to 23.30 if it can breakout from resistance. Need to watch how the RSI(14) reacts at the 40-45 level. If it finds support this is bullish. If it crashes through on its way to 30 or even 20 then this would be bear market activity.